Curse

Fowler · Sep 01, 2009, 11:45 AM // 11:45

Hey all!

At the moment I am trying to develop buid for assassin. I purpose the next options

1)daze
2)kd
3)condition pressure.
4) finish target by SoTS/ deadly corrupt

Myself I have set the next two builds

I) I used Beguiling haze+ Iron palm in order to start chain.

BH
Palm
Falling SPider
Horns of the Ox
Falling Lotus Strike
Twisting Fangs
Signet of Toxic SHock
Dash/REs Sig/IMS/...

IT worked rly nice on casters ...I WAS SHOCKED WHEN SAW ALMOST the same build on pvx,but in archive section. Reasons

# General Deadly Arts nerfs
# Fell out of favor
#Out DAted

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:A/any_BH_Spike_Sin

When I checked other builds with BH... I was petrified. Everyone hates my favorite ELite Beguiling Haze. Outdated/Out of favour...Eh QQ I am not pro pvper,but why BH sucks today so much?

II) What do you think bout this one?

BLack SPider strike
Black Lotus Strike
Temple Strike
twisting
Deadly Corrupt( IN the end of the conbo hits like 150

)
Dark Prison(well any hex)
Dash
Mend touch /IMS

ANy suggestions appreciated!
plz dont stab my temple for kind a pvp newbness
CYas all!

kedde · Sep 01, 2009, 01:37 PM // 13:37

Daze is way too easy to deal with for it to warrant spending half you energy on.

Reverend Dr · Sep 01, 2009, 01:56 PM // 13:56

The daze from beguiling haze lasts very little time at all. That little time it is up you immediately KD the target so daze is irrelevant. After 2 attacks that will go off while the target is KD, you use impale and signet which aren't affected by daze, nor will they trigger daze. A 15 energy beguiling haze just to trigger iron palm. That build with shadow prison instead of haze would be far superior.

It appears you are on a daze kick. Daze is a terrible condition. While it can be devastating against bad players, for what it costs and its methods of application, it is just a terrible condition. Look at the higher levels of PvP, what conditions don't see play, disease and daze. Some old heavy pressure builds would use disease, but daze has never been used at the high level.

Bobby2 · Sep 01, 2009, 02:55 PM // 14:55

Baby's meleegons ran Spear Swipe.

Anyway, Daze + KDs is indeed quite redundant. I do like Haze for RA or AB since it's both a shadowstep and a spell interrupt, though very costly it's pretty versatile. I wouldn't say SP is superior; the longer recharge and lack of BLS killed it a long time ago.

Biggest issue is the attribute spread of the build. Haze-Twisting combo-SoDS seems nice on paper but 4-attribute builds are weak in practice. Most fun I've had with was in a straight-up dagger build.

12+1 Crit
11+1+1 Dagger
6+1 Shadow

Haze - Leaping Mantis - Lotus Strike - HotO - Falling Spider - Twisting - Flurry - Res/Dash

Silencing dagz for an extra 2 seconds... if you must